Android Stealing Symbian & WinMo Market Share?

Android fan site, Phandroid, reports that Android and other newer operating sustems are stealing Symbian and WinMo market share

Below are percentage share movement in the smartphone market from Q3 2008 to Q3 2009:

Android – 0% to 3.9%
BlackBerry OS – 16% to 20.8%
iPhone – 12.9% to 17.1%
Symbian – 49.7% to 44.6%
WebOS – 0% to 1.1%
Windows Mobile – 11% to 7.9%

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16 thoughts on “Android Stealing Symbian & WinMo Market Share?

  • November 16, 2009 at 1:40 pm
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    It may be a good thing if Symbian is TRULY systematically losing some share of the market to its more recent and ambitious competitors. As a (market) leader, you must be up and doing to maintain your leadership position.

    Besides that, though, human nature is such that the inquisitive, childlike part of us (which never dies) is always looking out for, and trying out new things, and new methods of – doing things! Buy a new toy for your kid and see how quickly he forgets the old ones (that may be better!) – @ least until the novelty wears off/out.

    Let us wait and see if this apparent diminution of Symbian patronage will stand the test of time!!

    I will stick out my neck and say that it will NOT, for several reasons…

  • November 16, 2009 at 5:54 pm
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    I think in the coming years the market share of symbian will continue to decline with more devices coming out. The Symbian market share at over 40% is overwhelming too much to hold to, so it would continue to drop market share with maemo and Samsung’s Bada coming into the market space.

    The only way for Symbian to hold onto to its current leadership positon is to catch up in its UI area and make its devices more appealling like back in the days of N-Series where the deciding factor is the hardware specs which has become increasing irrelevant courtesy the Apple iphone.

    Nokia and Symbian has to embrace the trend and make more appealing touchscreen devices with snazzie UI and better handling social networks like facebook and twitter.

    Beyond the touchscreen segment it also has to also replicate the eye candy factor into the UI of its non-touch phones and also make them social network capable.

    Its lack of presence in the US market is the number reason it is losing market share, to counter its decline Nokia has to make its devices available to both GSM and CDMA users this is the only way to stem the loss of its market share

  • November 16, 2009 at 6:13 pm
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    Really, there has to be pressures on symbian and winmobile because must of their vendors are deviating towards android.

    Motorola has completely left symbian in search of a greener pasture to save it from its bankrupcy, and luckily its first usage of the new open source os (android) on it smart phone called Moto DROID is yielding fruits.Infact,the phone has already sold more than 200,000 copies in the US in the 1st 2weeks of it release,giving even the iphone a real fight.

    On the other hand,samsung which is next to nokia in mobile dominance has being raining droids phones for sometime now.

    Recently, Sonyericsson has also joined in with its xperia X10,even though it is still using symbian and winmo for other devices,and so it is with the likes of LG,HTC,Acer and the rest.

    The next thing we shall watch out for it to see what maemo 5 device can do on the market scene with the coming of N900. The mobile market is becoming increasingly unpredictable.

  • November 16, 2009 at 6:45 pm
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    My position is that while Symbian is not in danger of extinction, it will certainly lose more of the market.

    The new kids on the block have implemented something that the multitudes want – sleek, user-friendly user interfaces.

    Symbian may be more mature and so tout more features, but let’s not forget that only a few of us really care about most of those features. The mass market really does not.

    It is why the mass market loves the iPhone. Regardless of what ‘Droid does’ that the iPhone does not, if the Droid does not present a fancy interface that’s easy to use, and in a sexy shell, the mass market won’t bite. By mass market, I refer to those who are not geek types.

    The battle of marketshare is won and lost with the mass market, not niche people like most of us who participate on bloogs and forums like this one.

    Both Symbian and Windows Mobile will lose some more ground before things stabilise again.

  • November 16, 2009 at 8:48 pm
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    In a Formulas 1 car races, a race is won thru the combination of the car itself and its driver’s dexterity. But, no car race is ever won unless the car itself is in tiptop condition. It does not matter how skillful a driver is, he will still likely lose a race if the equipment is not right.

    The question is, which is more important: the phone (hardware) itselfor the Operating System driving it.

    The technical superiority or prowess of Nokia (makers of Symbian) over most of the other SmartPhone makers – is generally not in doubt.
    The mass-market users (the non geeks) surely recognise rock-solid quality present in Nokias. Smartphones are getting more feature-rich, more energy efficient and cheaper. I believe these factors will, in the long run, play the determining factor as regards which phones the majority of people will embrace.

    I pray for (and believe in) the continued predomination of Symbian.

    Would you rather buy a car because of the accessories rather than the solidity of its build?

    Given the level of the legendary and recognised quality and innovativeness of Nokia, even if Nokia decides to abandon Symbian for Android (some Nokias [will] run on Android!), I will personally still go for Nokia.

    I am hoping Symbian regain lost ground -not because I specifically think it is more fun as a phone interface, but because that is the major OS adopted by the Numero Uno phone company – Nokia..

  • November 17, 2009 at 11:39 am
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    @Yomi..hate to point out this the iphone is not a mass market product and it will never be..Apple has a tendency of making quality products (according to them) not looking at quantity or volume. If you take a critical look at their products from the iphone, ibook, imac to the ipod. none of these products are cheap beside the ipod shuffle and nano which still relatively expensive compared to their competitors. the iphone costs Apple about $200 in parts and labour yet the iphone goes for almost $500 ($200 with network subsidies and contract).

    The future battle is pitched between the Android and Symbian in the high end segment. Symbian will still retain it premier position until the others start making phone that do not require touch screens or a qwerty keypad. which is technically where the most sales volume is generated (mid-tier segment).

    The Symbian foundation should step up their efforts in making their releases available soonest and also learn from the others. so far from the demonstration videos i have seen so far. the best UI is by far the webOS seconded by the iphone.

    Nokia has been for some time been talking about services as a driving point. But it has continually failed in its implementation, by fragmenting these services as it is unavailable in some devices. Its main excuse for this has always been product differentiation. If Nokia seriously wants to catch on with its competitors it should have similar devices on all or most of its devices so long as it is not hardware constrained. One of its services that really needs to get on more devices is it Comes with Music services which allows Nokia device owners to download an unlimited amount of music unto their devices. If this service was available to all owners of nokia music capable devices with subscription. it would have caught on with many Nokia device users.

  • November 17, 2009 at 12:07 pm
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    martinkem,

    I did take the pains to qualify what I meant by “mass market” in the context of my comment. Again, by mass market (in the context of my comment above) I mean products that are not targeted at geeks, hard-core computer types, or those referred to as “power users” in some quarters.

    These niche group, to which you and I probably belong, was not the target of the iPhone, as it fell short of our needs and requirements. The iPhone was targeted at everyday people who want a highly usable user interface – and it meets that need just fine.

    Cheers.

  • November 17, 2009 at 4:14 pm
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    Geeks, nerds, technophiles. These are what all are on this forum. I quite agree with Yomi’s view that the mass market is d driving force behind the iphone’s success. The average phone user doesnt even know what an operating system is. He is most likely interested in or attracted to a phone because of its look and feel.

  • November 17, 2009 at 5:23 pm
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    EyeBeeKay,

    Your reference to Formula 1 races misses the point. The point is, Formula 1 cars are not mass market. They are niche. No car manufacturer ever has or ever will win the marketshare race based on Formula 1 car numbers.

    Again, you mention the rock solidness of Nokia phones (though we are discussing operating systems; not hardware), and I challenge you to play with an iPhone and tell me in what ways it lacks rock solidness. Apple is king of quality hardware.

    My guy, no-one here has compared accesories with build solidity, and if its build solidity you are holding on to, Nokia is a sore loser there beside Apple. Even some of Nokia’s flagship devices have build solidity issues.

    Back to discussing operating systems, the mass market wants sleek, user-friendly interfaces. They do not want to click through 3 to 4 menu levels to launch an application. They do not want to have to earn a degree in rocket science in order to use their phones. So far, Symbian currently fails in this department.

  • November 17, 2009 at 5:26 pm
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    martinkem,

    May I also add that at no time have I said that Symbian will be overtaken by the newcomers. Losing some marketshare does not necesarilly imply being overtaken. Just clarifying.

  • November 17, 2009 at 10:30 pm
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    yomi..i have to agree with u that the usability of the phone would associate the mass market with the Apple iphone or though the price of a basic iphone puts it a the high end segment of the market.

    To me the Android is a genuine mass market contender. We tend to forget that the masses tend to acquire phones because of the fact that they can send smses, make calls and mms. the app thing and UI eye candy is a preserve for geeks and the tech savvy ones.

  • November 18, 2009 at 3:52 pm
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    EyeBeeKay,

    I’m not quite surprised. The numbering used for the N900 had hinted at this shift. Plus, the N900 user interface is miles better than what obtains on Symbian 5th edition now. Plus, the N900 is everything the N97 was pretending to be.

    I recommend that you take a look at some of the N900 hands-on videos floating around on Youtube. Even Nokia knows that the Symbian user-interface as it is now is lame.

    Also, this explains why its only a documents viewer that’s included out-of-the-box. It is a device targeted primarilly at the multimedia crowd.

  • November 18, 2009 at 8:41 pm
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    The Symbian UI can be easily improved upon by Nokia but it has failed to do so..if u check some videos on youtube of people modding their N97 and 5800 to include the swipe effect popularized by the iphone and so third party applications like Handy Shell which gives u slide, rotate and the cube effect like samsung in the application. It just seems the Symbian Foundation have been sleeping under a rock. The eye candy effect is easy to implement. I have tried these effects on an E71, N73 and 6220 classic and it works just fine.

    The Videos of Nokia N900 is quite impressive i like the thumbnail task list best. I might start saving for that device but i am afraid of being an early adopter, i would definitely be buying the third maemo device to debut by then it might the capacitive screen amd multitouch.

    Symbian is all but dead to me now..No more N-series.

  • November 24, 2009 at 3:47 pm
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    Quit flogging Symbian, people. It was great when it started and it is now going into retirement, honourably.

    It is only natural that the new OS be better than Symbian. If they weren’t, they won’t be worth a pinch of salt.

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